Atheist Conundrums

Atheists, I believe, are in a pickle. They have a contradictory world view which appears not to be consistent with reality. Let me give you a recent example. I spend quite a bit of time discussing Biblical topics with atheists at IIDB. They are constantly accusing creationists of being liars (false in my opinion), so recently I asked them to tell me why they are so concerned about other people lying. And while they are at it, why would they have a problem with ANY type of ‘immoral’ behavior … not just lying, but cheating, stealing, killing, etc.?? They most certainly DO have a problem with these behaviors … but WHY? What in their world view requires it? The answer I think is ‘nothing requires it.’ They must borrow (steal?) from the Christian world view, which they repudiate, in order to have these values at all. And my view is that they actually have these basics values built in to their minds … put there by God when He created the human race … C.S. Lewis calls it Universal Morality and uses it as evidence for the existence of God. See my article on this HERE. Interestingly, when discussing Universal Morality, atheists will tell you that there is no such thing, but then when you start asking why they, being atheists, have morality, they will tell you that it IS universal after all. Yet another contradiction … a conundrum. which they cannot explain. Click HERE for this discussion at IIDB.

The solution for the atheist is for him or her to realize the contradictory nature of their view and repudiate it. Everything makes sense if you accept the most evidentially supported position that the God of the Bible really exists and the Bible truly is His Message to Mankind. (Picture credit: Wiki)

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3 Responses to “Atheist Conundrums”

  1. This was answered extensively in that thread. Simply put, morality for everyone (including Christians) is a combination of rational choice and evolutionary impulse. “Moral” behavior occurs in other species. What qualify as a moral good or bad is decided by everyone subjectively. The specific concern about lying is not so much about violating an atheistic moral code, but lying is pointed out within a debate to 1) negate the credibility of the liar, and 2) to point out the hypocrisy of Christian moralizers.

  2. lordkalvan Says:

    There is no need to invoke Christianity to explain moral behaviour. There are numerous studies that show it is an evolutionary adaptation, as a google search would quickly show. It is more persuasive to suggest that the ethics of Christianity and many of the world’s other religions are derived from the mechanisms of co-operative behaviour that can be observed today in many primate populations. Indeed, there is no need to call on religion at all to follow the ‘golden rule’ that one should do nothing to others that one would not wish to have done to oneself. The conundrum you identify exists only in your own mind.

  3. robert103 Says:

    I guess that one of the reasons that atheists call some religious proponents liars is that, despite the fact that they have been given explanations and evidence, they simply deny it. I do not see a name for the gentleman who posted this, but surely he could have done a little research on how morals are developed. This is disingenuous at best, and I suspect he is simply lying. And to say that the ‘God of the Bible … is evidentially supported’ is surely using some Orwellian definition of evidence. Science is based on evidence, religion is at best based on faith and more commonly, in the US based on a blind denial of evidence. That is why so much of religion in the US is in a battle with the teaching of science. So, if you are religions, smart and honest, take the scientific method and apply it to your belief. Have faith if you wish, but I have yet to see any scientific, evidence based reason to believe in a God.

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